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    Ok guys, and so here's the challenge for the mean solar day......

    I was sitting at a lite two days ago, and I let up on the brake to migrate a piffling frontward and when I stepped back down on it to finish, the pedal went downwardly with almost no pressure, I let up and stepped downwards again, and information technology had total pressure...... and the warning light came on and I take 'Brake Failure' scrolling on the screen.

    I came dwelling house, turned it off and iii hours later I went out to burn down information technology up, still had the message there..... so tonight I went out, added a little brake fluid (it didn't really demand any) I ran it around a niggling and it seems fine but I still have the message, and so when I got back, I broke out the tools .... bled the brakes all around..... added more fluid,..... This did nothing......

    So and so I got the great idea of pulling all the fuses and cycling the key on....... in hopes of resetting something, that got me nowhere, so I asunder the battery, and turned on the central trying to drain the power out of it........... guess what?

    I still have the restriction warning but at present my clock is reset.

    Is there whatsoever way of resetting this warning light without having to take a ii i/2 60 minutes long trip to the dealer?

    Any ideas?

    Last edited by matusky; 09-19-2008 at 12:42 AM.

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    You tin can't fifty-fifty bleed the brakes on this matter without hooking it up to the BUDS. You need to take it to the dealer.


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    Does anyone know how to clear this fault message, I take had it twice, the get-go time it cleared itself, this time it is still there.

    I accept a ride of over 1400kms round trip to my nearest dealer, a long way to get but for an mistake message reset.

    Information technology appears to come on if I release the park brake and utilize the foot brake gently immediately after.

    I rang my "local" dealer but he can't help, other than the long ride.

    Does anyone take a list of the Fault code meanings or know where I tin can observe them. I ahve a error code of OC1282 and wondered what it was for?

    I live in Cardinal Qld Australis so I am a long manner from anywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cbeaul View Post

    LPS Fault Lawmaking
    (Braking sytem)
    -Put ignition switch at OFF
    -Wait 30 seconds.
    -Plough ignition switch to ON
    -Press firmly on brake pedal until you ear a clic from LPS switch or that you lot get 3500 kpa in system.
    P.S.: You volition starting time hear the restriction light switch. Keep to put more pressure until you hear a second clic that will come from the LPS.

    Isn't that funny...... Information technology WORKED!
    Got rid of my warning message last night, saved me a dealer trip!

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    Default Problem resolved

    Well, using the on/off and push button the pedal play a joke on, never helped.

    BRP Aust have been on the phone everyday trying to help.

    The last suggestion was that considering I had adjusted the rod from the brake pedal to the master cylinder to adjust the brake pedal height, was to render the rod dorsum to its original length.

    Guess what............problem solved!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No more warning message.


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    Default Sorted!!!

    Well, I sorted the trouble with the assistance of BRP Australia, when I bought my Spyder I talked to the dealer about adjusting the position of the brake pedal, which I did by altering the length of the linkage rod from the pedal to the master cylinder, subsequently a calendar week of discussions with BRP Australia (and they were great) they suggested that I return the pedal to its original postion and surprise, surprise no more error message, sounds stupid but information technology worked and has been ok for a few weeks now.

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    Veeery innnnteresting!

    When I was doing the paw restriction modification, that NEXUS devised, I of class read the Spyder shop transmission section nigh the braking system, before I started the projection. I began to understand some of what has also been posted in this thread virtually how it all works.

    Since I had to remove the whole brake pedal/foot peg assembly to drill out the mounting bosses I was afraid I might inadvertently trigger the LPS warning,

    if I forgot and turned on the ignition while I had the LPS switch unplugged. To avoid that possible senior moment, I took the key out of the slot and put information technology on my workbench.

    In the manual it says that the brake adjustment rod should be re-adjusted

    any time the brake pedal assembly is removed and then re-assembled. They have a special measuring fixture that has to be temporarily put in place of the whole main cylinder itself - what a hassle! I definitely didn't want to bargain with that, and I don't have the measuring fixture anyway.

    I decided that since at that place is not a lot of clearance (read slop) in any of the assembly mounting holes, my safest bet would be to non disturb the rod adjusting nuts (doesn't have to be loosened to remove the pedal assembly) and everything would go back in place where it was originally. It seems to have worked out OK that way.

    BTW - In the manual it tells how to reset the error bulletin, but as it has been described hither in this thread. All the same, information technology so goes on to say that it has to be hooked up to the BUDS,

    after that reset procedure, and something checked again. I don't remember exactly what it says to do and so.

    It is beginning to be a great pleasance now, when I have to work on one of my antique British bikes, after this sort of thing on my Spyder. Wow, on those I don't even have to remove any panels - it's all out at that place.

    Last edited by trikester; 01-23-2009 at 09:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matusky View Post

    Isn't that funny...... IT WORKED!
    Got rid of my warning bulletin terminal nighttime, saved me a dealer trip!

    Same affair happened to me..The brake pressure went down, then back up,and the brake failure came on. After reading the reset fix, I topped my brake fluid off and tried the reset steps and It Worked! Restriction failure lite went away! i accept a Rt 2011 SM5. Must be a common affair with the earlier yr models. Im and so glad I checked on here starting time for a prepare. You guys are crawly! Saved me a trip to the dealer and God just knows what they would take told me to become my money.

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    I've been trying to get my brake failure warning to clear for about a month now, with no luck. The brakes experience keen and always take. I repeatedly tried the reset procedure many times and even followed a video online of a guy resetting the warning step by step again no luck. My state inspection is due next calendar month so I fear that I will have to take the Spyder to the dealer to get information technology reset. I hope they don't charge me too much for the service.

    Bruce
    Yorktown, VA
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    Default Practical joke or truth?

    Haven�t been on for a long, long time due to wife�s illness. So, Spyder has been neglected just sitting in the garage. Well, being her master caregiver for the last few years has the Medico demanding I become do something away from the house for a couple of days for my wellness. Well, later on ignoring his propose for too long, as I don�t like leaving her, I decided maybe a ride would exist good. And then, I got my 2008 done and waxed and started her up and that anoying �Brake Failure� scrolling started. I had tried everythig 2 or three years ago when this started, but cipher would eliminate it. So, I decided to go on Spyder Lovers and come across if anybody had come up up with a set for this. All I could find was this posted dorsum in 2008... LPS Mistake Code
    (Braking sytem)
    -Put ignition switch at OFF
    -Await thirty seconds.
    -Turn ignition switch to ON
    -Press firmly on brake pedal until you ear a clic from LPS switch or that yous go 3500 kpa in organisation.
    P.S.: You will kickoff hear the restriction calorie-free switch. Continue to put more pressure level until y'all hear a 2d clic that will come from the LPS.

    It looked similar a joke to me and figured somebody was laughing everytime they thought about posting this. But, I tried information technology anyway. And approximate what? Information technology WORKED!


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    This is like to postal service #v, but with a niggling more than item.

    If you lot exercise not have whatsoever codes, but withal have a restriction warning, it is possible the low force per unit area switch has been activated. In that location are three switches in the brake circuit. 1. Restriction low-cal switch, 2. Hydraulic pressure switch, and 3. Depression pressure level switch (this is really a limit switch that just senses the pedal has traveled besides far). This tin can be reset past the following procedure.

    Later on a low pressure switch (LPS) problem has
    been solved, it is necessary to articulate the occurred
    fault in the VCM every bit fo llows:
    1. Plow ignition switch OFF.
    ii. Wait 30 seconds.
    3. Turn ignition switch ON.
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    4. Firmly press brake pedal until y'all hear a "click"
    from the LPS sw itch or until braking force per unit area
    reaches iii 500 kPa (508 PSI) .
    Note: The 1st click will come up from the brake light
    switch. Go along to strongly printing pedal to hear
    a 2 nd click. This ane will come from the low pressure
    switch. You may not hear the click, simply button the pedal real hard.
    Annotation: Utilize B.U.D.S. to monitor brake force per unit area if
    desired.
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    5. Turn ignition switch OFF.
    six. Wait 30 seconds.
    vii. Plow ignition switch ON.
    8. Validate error was cleared.

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    I've tried that procedure several times. Each fourth dimension I tin can hear the second click only the error remains. Maybe the hydraulic pressure switch has failed. If I have time this weekend I'grand going to flush the brake fluid and try again to reset the error.

    Bruce
    Yorktown, VA
    '08 Spyder GS


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    Success!! I finally got the restriction failure warning to reset. I bled the brakes and it was clearly overdue. When I pressed on the brake pedal it took noticeably more effort to get the 2nd switch to click during the reset procedure. When I turned the key back on I was thrilled to run across the alert was gone. After seeing the brake failure warning for the past 2 months it was swell to see information technology finally gone. While I had the warning, the brakes felt fine simply they definitely feel better now.

    Bruce
    Yorktown, VA
    '08 Spyder GS


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    Quote Originally Posted by bwbarnes View Post

    Success!! I finally got the brake failure warning to reset. I bled the brakes and it was conspicuously overdue.

    Now yous need to get to the dealer and have them end the brake drain process. It has to be done using BUDS. Not sure what information technology does but it may be to recalibrate everything so that the ABS and brake distribution system volition work correctly. The BUDs procedure requirement is spelled out in the service transmission.


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    You can bleed the brakes without buds you volition just not bleed the ABS unit. But if there is no air in the ABS no problem.
    If there is, you will have a soft peddle and restriction faults as stated. You lot will need to see the dealer if that is the case.

    You tin can also flush the system without BUDS but like in a higher place, yous volition not flush the ABS. ABS holds very fiddling fluid anyway.

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    ..."adjusting the position of the restriction pedal, which I did past altering the length of the linkage rod from the pedal to the primary cylinder,"...
    Pictures, please? I have no idea what you are referring to. Cheers.

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    Thanks!
    Worked perfectly ��

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    Spyder Remember Guys...

    Whenever y'all check or top off your brake reservoir, the caps have to exist put back on a certain way (proper facing direction) or information technology volition also cause indications or brake problems.

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    Wow this one was started in 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutuss100 View Post

    Whenever you cheque or top off your brake reservoir, the caps have to be put back on a certain style (proper facing direction) or it will also crusade indications or brake problems.

    If you look down at the master cylinder reservoir 12 o'clock is dead ahead and the vent in the cap, the raised portion at the edge, should be at about v:30. If it is facing forward, more in the management of travel, fluid can leak out and eventually generate a warning.

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    This may help someone who can't become the scrolling fault message to reset:

    --Bleed all the brakes until you're satisfied in that location is no more air in them, then,
    --There'due south a junction box (vehicle control module) in front of the block into which several hard brake lines merge. There'due south also a bleeder screw on superlative between the restriction lines. If yous remove enough tupperware, you lot'll exist able to proceeds access to bleed this screw (information technology won't be like shooting fish in a barrel!)
    --Then try the press/hold process described higher up.

    Worked for me!

    Final edited by PhilY; 02-15-2022 at 02:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwbarnes View Post

    I've been trying to get my restriction failure alert to clear for about a month at present, with no luck. The brakes feel cracking and always have. I repeatedly tried the reset procedure many times and even followed a video online of a guy resetting the alert step by pace again no luck. My state inspection is due adjacent month and so I fear that I will take to have the Spyder to the dealer to get information technology reset. I hope they don't charge me as well much for the service.

    The fine folks at the Can am dealer in Winston=Salem, NC charged me $350 to "drain the brakes"... Skillful luck - these folks are criminals

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